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Special counsel is investigating Trump for possible obstruction of justice, officials say:

By Devlin Barrett, Adam Entous, Ellen Nakashima and Sari Horwitz

June 14 at 6:21 PM


The special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russia’s role in the 2016 election is interviewing senior intelligence officials as part of a widening probe that now includes an examination of whether President Trump attempted to obstruct justice, officials said.

The move by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III to investigate Trump’s conduct marks a major turning point in the nearly year-old FBI investigation, which until recently focused on Russian meddling during the presidential campaign and on whether there was any coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. Investigators have also been looking for any evidence of possible financial crimes among Trump associates, officials said.

Trump had received private assurances from then-FBI Director James B. Comey starting in January that he was not personally under investigation. Officials say that changed shortly after Comey’s firing.

Five people briefed on the interview requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said that Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, Mike Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, and Rogers’s recently departed deputy, Richard Ledgett, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller’s investigators as early as this week. The investigation has been cloaked in secrecy, and it is unclear how many others have been questioned by the FBI.

The NSA said in a statement that it will “fully cooperate with the special counsel” and declined to comment further. The office of the director of national intelligence and Ledgett declined to comment.

The White House now refers all questions about the Russia investigation to Trump’s personal attorney, Marc Kasowitz.

“The FBI leak of information regarding the president is outrageous, inexcusable and illegal,” said Mark Corallo, a spokesman for Kasowitz.

The officials said Coats, Rogers and Ledgett would appear voluntarily, though it remains unclear whether they will describe in full their conversations with Trump and other top officials or will be directed by the White House to invoke executive privilege. It is doubtful that the White House could ultimately use executive privilege to try to block them from speaking to Mueller’s investigators. Experts point out that the Supreme Court ruled during the Watergate scandal that officials cannot use privilege to withhold evidence in criminal prosecutions.

The obstruction-of-justice investigation of the president began days after Comey was fired on May 9, according to people familiar with the matter. Mueller’s office has taken up that work, and the preliminary interviews scheduled with intelligence officials indicate that his team is actively pursuing potential witnesses inside and outside the government.

The interviews suggest that Mueller sees the question of attempted obstruction of justice as more than just a “he said, he said” dispute between the president and the fired FBI director, an official said.

Investigating Trump for possible crimes is a complicated affair, even if convincing evidence of a crime were found. The Justice Department has long held that it would not be appropriate to indict a sitting president. Instead, experts say, the onus would be on Congress to review any findings of criminal misconduct and then decide whether to initiate impeachment proceedings.

Comey confirmed publicly in congressional testimony on March 20 that the bureau was investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

Comey’s statement before the House Intelligence Committee upset Trump, who has repeatedly denied that any coordination with the Russians took place. Trump had wanted Comey to disclose publicly that he was not personally under investigation, but the FBI director refused to do so.

Soon after, Trump spoke to Coats and Rogers about the Russia investigation.

Officials said one of the exchanges of potential interest to Mueller took place on March 22, less than a week after Coats was confirmed by the Senate to serve as the nation’s top intelligence official.

Coats was attending a briefing at the White House with officials from several other government agencies. When the briefing ended, as The Washington Post previously reported, Trump asked everyone to leave the room except for Coats and CIA Director Mike Pompeo.

Coats told associates that Trump had asked him whether Coats could intervene with Comey to get the bureau to back off its focus on former national security adviser Michael Flynn in its Russia probe, according to officials. Coats later told lawmakers that he never felt pressured to intervene.

A day or two after the March 22 meeting, Trump telephoned Coats and Rogers to separately ask them to issue public statements denying the existence of any evidence of coordination between his campaign and the Russian government.

Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the president’s requests, officials said.

It is unclear whether Ledgett had direct contact with Trump or other top officials about the Russia probe, but he wrote an internal NSA memo documenting the president’s phone call with Rogers, according to officials.

As part of the probe, the special counsel has also gathered Comey’s written accounts of his conversations with Trump. The president has accused Comey of lying about those encounters.

Mueller is overseeing a host of investigations involving people who are or were in Trump’s orbit, people familiar with the probe said. The investigation is examining possible contacts with Russian operatives as well as any suspicious financial activity related to those individuals.

Last week, Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee that he had informed Trump that there was no investigation of the president’s personal conduct, at least while he was leading the FBI.

Comey’s carefully worded comments, and those of Andrew McCabe, who took over as acting FBI director, suggested to some officials that an investigation of Trump for attempted obstruction may have been launched after Comey’s departure, particularly in light of Trump’s alleged statements regarding Flynn.

“I took it as a very disturbing thing, very concerning, but that’s a conclusion I’m sure the special counsel will work towards, to try and understand what the intention was there, and whether that’s an offense,” Comey testified last week.

Mueller has not publicly discussed his work, and a spokesman for the special counsel declined to comment.

Accounts by Comey and other officials of their conversations with the president could become central pieces of evidence if Mueller decides to pursue an obstruction case.

Investigators will also look for any statements the president may have made publicly and privately to people outside the government about his reasons for firing Comey and his concerns about the Russia probe and other related investigations, people familiar with the matter said.

Comey testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week that he was certain his firing was due to the president’s concerns about the Russia probe, rather than over his handling of a now-closed FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server as secretary of state, as the White House had initially asserted. “It’s my judgment that I was fired because of the Russia investigation,” Comey said. “I was fired, in some way, to change — or the endeavor was to change the way the Russia investigation was being conducted.”

The fired FBI director said ultimately it was up to Mueller to make a determination whether the president crossed a legal line.

In addition to describing his interactions with the president, Comey told the Intelligence Committee that while he was FBI director he told Trump on three occasions that he was not under investigation as part of a counterintelligence probe looking at Russian meddling in the election.

Republican lawmakers seized on Comey’s testimony to point out that Trump was not in the FBI’s crosshairs when Comey led the bureau.

After Comey’s testimony, in which he acknowledged telling Trump that he was not under investigation, Trump tweeted that he felt “total and complete vindication.” It is unclear whether McCabe, Comey’s successor, has informed Trump of the change in the scope of the probe.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/special-counsel-is-investigating-trump-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice/2017/06/14/9ce02506-5131-11e7-b064-828ba60fbb98_story.html?utm_term=.e1ab19d9d854

Looks like the story is true.President Trillary doesn't deny it:

June 15,2017

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 5h5 hours ago

They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice


Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 4h4 hours ago

You are witnessing the single greatest WITCH HUNT in American political history - led by some very bad and conflicted people! #MAGA

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A "WITCH HUNT"....That is funny.This asshole accused Obama of being born in Kenyan.For 5 years he demanded Obama show his birth certificate(which he did,both short and long form)claiming all the while everything Obama showed was false,one time saying:

"I have people that have been studying [Obama's birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they're finding ... I would like to have him show his birth certificate, and can I be honest with you, I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility ... then he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics."

After 5 years of this WITCH HUNT he finally admits Obama was born in America.

FUCK HIM

14 of Trump's most outrageous 'birther' claims -- half from after 2011

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/



http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/

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I find this funny since Hillary allegedly bleached emails and her hubby met Lynch in a private plane.

Apparently neither of those things qualify as obstructing anything.

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I find this funny since Hillary allegedly bleached emails and her hubby met Lynch in a private plane.

Apparently neither of those things qualify as obstructing anything.


That's the difference between winning and losing.After Hillary's loss Jason Chaffetz folded his tent and is retiring.I guess the Repugs figured it's not worth spending the time or money trying to get a conviction.

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That's the difference between winning and losing.After Hillary's loss Jason Chaffetz folded his tent and is retiring.I guess the Repugs figured it's not worth spending the time or money trying to get a conviction.


She is slowly fading away, any way. Even the Democrats are wishing she would just disappear.

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Not for Americans, foreign labor is much cheaper.

An excerpt from The Palm Beach Post: Trump won permission to hire 70 maids, cooks and servers at the Mar-a-Lago Club for the 2017-18 tourist season, according to newly released data from the U.S. Labor Department. In 2016-17, Trump hired 64 foreign workers at the Palm Beach property.

In addition to the 70 visas at Mar-a-Lago, Trump also won permission to hire foreign workers at other properties that bear his name. He landed visas for 10 waiters and waitresses and six cooks at Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, plus eight waiters and waitresses at Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor, N.Y.
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White kids won't do the hard jobs anymore.Used to be the white kids in school would sign up to work the fields each summer to make money for for fall school,but not now.You only see Mexican kids with a few poor white trash out in the fields.Sad really.White kids are lazy as fuck today.hen my kids were young they be out there working for their pay.Today,kids expect it served to them on a platter,silver or not.
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White kids won't do the hard jobs anymore.Used to be the white kids in school would sign up to work the fields each summer to make money for for fall school,but not now.You only see Mexican kids with a few poor white trash out in the fields.Sad really.White kids are lazy as fuck today.hen my kids were young they be out there working for their pay.Today,kids expect it served to them on a platter,silver or not.


This goes into what I believe is from the destruction of the family unit. At best, the parents are still together, but both parents work leaving kids to try and fend for themselves, never being taught by anyone to do so. Then there's the broken family homes, generally one parent has the children and they also work, kids don't get the time and lessons from the father or mother. Schools are shot to hell, there's no accountability in kids lives... In Canada here they don't 'fail' kids anymore, they are not allowed to discipline children, neither are parents.

There should be major repercussions for divorce, like both parents get fines or castrated or something lol... So to marry someone, you got to REALLY love them....
Discipline has to come back into the family home and schools. I know single parents who are afraid to discipline their children in fear that social services will be informed and they'll lose their children...

It's a fucked up world and now in some places parents can "pick" their childs sex at birth... No discipline... on and on and on....

It's a mad mad world!

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This goes into what I believe is from the destruction of the family unit. At best, the parents are still together, but both parents work leaving kids to try and fend for themselves, never being taught by anyone to do so. Then there's the broken family homes, generally one parent has the children and they also work, kids don't get the time and lessons from the father or mother. Schools are shot to hell, there's no accountability in kids lives... In Canada here they don't 'fail' kids anymore, they are not allowed to discipline children, neither are parents.

There should be major repercussions for divorce, like both parents get fines or castrated or something lol... So to marry someone, you got to REALLY love them....
Discipline has to come back into the family home and schools. I know single parents who are afraid to discipline their children in fear that social services will be informed and they'll lose their children...

It's a fucked up world and now in some places parents can "pick" their childs sex at birth... No discipline... on and on and on....

It's a mad mad world!



Maybe you're right Dmon and maybe you're wrong.I can only tell you about my family.I met my first wife back in 1978 about a year after her divorce.She already had three kids,two boys and one girl.All young ages from 5,3 and 2.I had none,still don't have any biological kids.Within a few months we quickly became a family,the kids asking if they could call me Daddy.I nearly cried.I taught the kids the way I was raised,basically ain't no one gonna give ya shit,you must put in an honest days work for an honest dollar.And that was the way it was until their mother and I divorced in 1990.I believe it's the parents values,whether their married or not,divorced or not,gay or not,blended or not,well you get the idea.It is these values that make the kids who they are and what they can make of themselves along with their own integrity and abilities.

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Yes, castrate someone who gets divorced. I guess the woman who divorces an abusive husband gets her ovaries torn out?
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