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It's 22 min long.Caught part of it last night.

For those who offended by watching the vice clip through the Vox article,I've put in a direct link via youtube







https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/16/16155942/charlottesville-protests-nazis-vice[youtube]
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Post 08/16/17 10:57am
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Why does anyone need VOX of all groups to tell us what white supremacists are really about? They are pieces of shit and everyone who isn't a white supremacist knows it. This is part of the problem. People that keep alive the partisan narratives through the liberal media. Until the media put this on the front page EVERY DAY people thought this was fringe thinking. Now our beloved media is "making the news" with it EVERY DAY.
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Why does anyone need VOX of all groups to tell us what white supremacists are really about? They are pieces of shit and everyone who isn't a white supremacist knows it. This is part of the problem. People that keep alive the partisan narratives through the liberal media. Until the media put this on the front page EVERY DAY people thought this was fringe thinking. Now our beloved media is "making the news" with it EVERY DAY.


The clip comes from HBO's Vice.

Vox writes little and most of the very article contains direct quotes form these Nazi's

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I think Shapiro nailed it here:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/19813/how-alt-right-won-battle-over-charlottesville-ben-shapiro

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Am I the only one that realizes both groups suck?

The Anti-Fa worry me far more than the white supremacists, and I will tell you why.


In all the history books I have ever read, it is never a small group of poorly educated idiots with outrageous opinions that are the ones doing the leading to the ovens/gas chambers/ mass grave. It is always citizen soldiers, doing what they believe to be correct to protect their fellow countrymen from the perceived evil.

And what frightens me most is that several of my supposedly much better educated friends from my youth support Anti-Fa without question. When I point out that the Soviet Flag they love to fly killed exponentially more people than the Nazi Flag, they simply call me a Fox News shill of a moron. They openly support fascist tactics like suppression of free speech, with zero irony or self awareness. My views are constantly evolving, but it seems most people just seem to go where whatever side they are on seems to support.

On the plus side, there are so many ways to get information out, there are at least some less biased sources now, until YouTube finds them.


There was an embedded in Antifa video, but YouTube seems to have taken it down. It did not paint them in a favorable light.

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^ You're not alone. Both of these groups are shit, and Antifa is far more violent and far more widespread. Not more violent because they're different than the white power assholes, just more violent because they've been much more active so far. It's estimated that 90% of Antifa troublemakers are white males with no job, living at home. That makes sense, since nobody has to go to work and can travel around on mommies dime causing trouble.

And the white power group is the same collection of assholes. In reality, they're the same.

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^ You're not alone. Both of these groups are shit, and Antifa is far more violent and far more widespread. Not more violent because they're different than the white power assholes, just more violent because they've been much more active so far. It's estimated that 90% of Antifa troublemakers are white males with no job, living at home. That makes sense, since nobody has to go to work and can travel around on mommies dime causing trouble.

And the white power group is the same collection of assholes. In reality, they're the same.


As I've stated before, Antifa is bad,Nazi's are evil.That simple.They are not the same.

I've tried to confirm your 90% but only found an article stating that :

From The Daily Mail:

"92% of left-wing activists live with their parents and one in three is unemployed, study of Berlin protesters finds"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4200272/92-Berlin-left-wing-activists-live-parents.html

Think it's like reading the National Enquirer.

Here's the NY Times article on Antifa:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/antifa-left-wing-faction-far-right.html?mcubz=0

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Antifa is violent - Nazis are violent. Same thing. And stop pretending today's Nazis are like the 1940's - they're punk kids
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As I've stated before, Antifa is bad,Nazi's are evil.That simple.They are not the same.

I've tried to confirm your 90% but only found an article stating that :

From The Daily Mail:

"92% of left-wing activists live with their parents and one in three is unemployed, study of Berlin protesters finds"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4200272/92-Berlin-left-wing-activists-live-parents.html

Think it's like reading the National Enquirer.

Here's the NY Times article on Antifa:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/us/antifa-left-wing-faction-far-right.html?mcubz=0


I don't really think the NYT is any better than the Enquirer, but I'll certainly read the link

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Thanks Rugs.I think they were open minded.
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Am I the only one that realizes both groups suck?

The Anti-Fa worry me far more than the white supremacists, and I will tell you why.


In all the history books I have ever read, it is never a small group of poorly educated idiots with outrageous opinions that are the ones doing the leading to the ovens/gas chambers/ mass grave. It is always citizen soldiers, doing what they believe to be correct to protect their fellow countrymen from the perceived evil.

And what frightens me most is that several of my supposedly much better educated friends from my youth support Anti-Fa without question. When I point out that the Soviet Flag they love to fly killed exponentially more people than the Nazi Flag, they simply call me a Fox News shill of a moron. They openly support fascist tactics like suppression of free speech, with zero irony or self awareness. My views are constantly evolving, but it seems most people just seem to go where whatever side they are on seems to support.

On the plus side, there are so many ways to get information out, there are at least some less biased sources now, until YouTube finds them.

There was an embedded in Antifa video, but YouTube seems to have taken it down. It did not paint them in a favorable light.



Tell your friends,if they really exist that the Commies and Nazi's are working together.

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Protest in Boston today - all the arrests, all the violence due to the "counter-protestors". No trouble from the conservatives marching, per the mayor and police chief
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Protest in Boston today - all the arrests, all the violence due to the "counter-protestors". No trouble from the conservatives marching, per the mayor and police chief


From what I've read so far.Mostly peaceful rally.Out of the thousands of counter protesters there were 33 arrests mostly for disturbing the peace and a few for assaults on police officers.

All in all a good day.Cops were on top of the situation,kept both sides separated.

I heard on a clip a reporter saying BLM people were saying do not engage,do not engage.Of course there are always a few bad actors.


"Controversial speakers

Some speakers had dropped out, while others were uninvited after Charlottesville. But rally organizers said on social media that Kyle Chapman, Joe Biggs, US Senate candidate Shiva Ayyadurai and congressional candidate Samson Racioppi were to speak.

Chapman and Biggs are probably the most controversial.

Chapman is well-known in right-wing circles for arming himself with a stick and confronting anti-fascist demonstrators in Berkeley, California, according to the ADL. Known by the nickname Based Stickman or the Alt Knight, he has urged members of his group to battle left-wing activists, the ADL said.

Biggs, a former contributor to Alex Jones' InfoWars, is chief operations officer at the online outlet Rogue Right Media."

"The counterdemonstration was organized by an array of groups, including the Coalition to Mobilize and Organize Boston against Trump, the Act Now to Stop War & End Racism Coalition, Boston Democratic Socialists of America and Black Lives Matter, according to a Facebook page for the event."

No major incidents,no injuries.Good Day.

Even Trump applauded the protestors.(I bet that hurt him to do that) laugh.gif

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/19/politics/trump-tweet-boston-protests/index.html

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I guess the new thing is throwing bottles of urine.
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What a tough guy.

https://youtu.be/CD4reaHE83Q
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Something something perception of strength.
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